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Thread: 2 morning improvisation on Breathe track

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    2 morning improvisation on Breathe track

    did 2 improvisation, 1 acoustic, 1 electric, on the Breathe track this morning.
    the one that Szulc previously suggested for a combined jamming.

    I mainly play around A minor, though not completely.
    I played a Cort guitar through a Korg AX1500G.
    Would appreciate comments.
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    here's the acoustic one

    here's the acoustic improvisation on Breathe track
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    I listened to the electric jam, I thought it was pretty good. : )

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    hey,
    where is the original "ibreathetrack" from? haven't seen it!

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    Hey, I listened to the electric track and I can give a couple of tips:

    1. I'd like to hear some more space between your lines, there's very little breathing space now.

    2. You've got some nice licks in there, but they do soundlike that: Licks. I would like to hear more melody and development of it. A bit more harmonic content would help with that, like putting more emphasis on chord tones instead of using just scales.

    3. Your timing sounds a little rushed. I would like to hear you phrase more relaxed and more connected to the backing rhythm. Leaving more space (like I said earlier) would help you this I'd think.

    I hope this is helpfull to you, keep on playing & recording.

    BTW. The guitartrack was only on the left channel while the backing track was stereo, if you can get the guitar to sound left and right it would make it a lot better.
    Stop talking about modes and start working on your groove.

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    I liked the general idea of what you were trying to do, I'm not sure I got much of an acoustic flavour from the acoustic version, more a no treble electric?

    But I liked the electric version and what you were trying to do but:

    It sounds like you were improvising, if you know what I mean, rather than playing sopmething you had written in advance but perhaps a bit too much repitition of ideas, I'm trying really hard at the moment to never play anything more than once, which is really hard for me as I have this habit of playing licks twice in a row!! Damn I've got to stop that!

    Also to my ear the lead part was out of tune in places (it may have been just one string but I couldnt place it) and your bends were not precise enough and sometimes just fell short of hitting the right note resulting in a little bit of grating on the ear.

    It maybe you wanted that kind of effect but I didnt think so based on the vibe you were trying to create and the style you were using. Practice your bends and listen back to them over the backing track to make sure you are hitting where you wanted to get to, otherwise it smacks a little that you dont have full confidence in where your bend should be ending up.

    Post another version once you ready, I'd like to hear the complete article!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom
    hey,
    where is the original "ibreathetrack" from? haven't seen it!
    Hi Sven,

    I've just spotted it. It dates back a year. You should be able to find it amongst
    the posts at:-

    http://www.ibreathemusic.com/forums/...ead.php?t=1043

    I'll definately give it a go later when I get the kids to bed.

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    Here you go... warts and all!

    Enjoy and dont forget to have a go yourself!

    Steve
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    good!

    YO I THOUGHT THE ELECTRIC TRACK WAS PRETTY DARN KOOL.
    i like the minor feel and it reminds me of a steve vai song.
    the only things i can say to improve is your sense of melody rather than just playing random notes. like try to make memoriable phrases that you repeat in your songs ( such as satriani melodies), i like your vibrato and expression aswell very nice. it actually reminds me of myself playing because i sound a bit like that. but good job man.

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    ive been more on the blues side of thjings than shred latetly so if i make a blues song ill upload it here and u guys can help me out and give suggestions to my playing cause im my own critic at the moment.

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    Thanks for all the reply, if there is more I would definitely welcome.
    Thanks Steve for referring the link to the backing track, and I tot your
    jam was better timed, melodic and licks are played more steadily than I was.
    Especially u had a climax slowly built up while I dun have.

    Thanks for all the feedback on my timing and melodic problem. I got to pay
    more attention to the chords tone and visualizing the melody I want to play.

    As for the out of key bending feedback, sorry I can't figure out which part. Maybe u would like to be more specific?

    During the chord change to (is it F bass note, can't remember??), I really had a hard time of hearing a melody that I can play. I am not sure if this is a challenge for Steve who also attempted the improvisation. Me got to work on that.

    For all the compliments, I might not deserve but thanks a lot for the kind words. I think it would be interesting if there are more attempts from others. I am going to try it again.

    Satch_master, if u have a blues impro, maybe can we have it here and maybe I can try that as well.
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    yeah maybe i can make a basic blues shuffle in E as a jam track then we can take turn with soloing on it.

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    as soon as i find my mic...

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    Loveguitar, I can't tell you today what specific bar but just the bends in general are sometime stopping a little, and a mean a very little, flat of their target.

    Nothing major, please don't take it too much to heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveguitar
    During the chord change to (is it F bass note, can't remember??), I really had a hard time of hearing a melody that I can play. I am not sure if this is a challenge for Steve who also attempted the improvisation. Me got to work on that.
    Hi LoveGuitar,

    Yes I remember the part you mean, It caught me by surprise the first time around!
    That'll teach me to try and do something without figuring out the thing first.

    As far as coming up with a melodic structure, I struggled with that throughout
    the solo as well. I think meandered too much and didnt really find a melodic
    theme to work on.

    By the way, one smart way of building an extended solo like this is find a motif or
    a phrase that you can alter and develop, move away from, then return to.
    It'll also give the listener something to latch onto at verious parts during the solo
    and make the whole thing sound more cohesive (Not that I did any of this!).

    As far as your bends go, well I missed a few myself, so I cant talk. The first
    fast run near the end of my solo was all over the place too! Still it give's me
    something to work on!

    By the way, well done for discovering this jam track and having the bottle
    to put your music up for public strutiny.

    Best Regards

    Steve

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