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Thread: I need help identifying where cadences belong

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    I need help identifying where cadences belong

    I'm learning how to harmonize melodies. I have read it can help to find the cadences first. I just watched a very clear video on choosing chords I, IV, or V for Perfect, Imperfect, and Plagal cadences. Here's a link if your interested.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPP4V-9rgDM

    My question is, how do I identify where cadences belong in the melody? Do I play it over and over so I hear where I think they belong? Is there a way to see where they belong by reading the melody?
    Thank you for any help,

    Sam

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    Quote Originally Posted by srogers View Post
    I'm learning how to harmonize melodies. I have read it can help to find the cadences first. I just watched a very clear video on choosing chords I, IV, or V for Perfect, Imperfect, and Plagal cadences. Here's a link if your interested.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPP4V-9rgDM

    My question is, how do I identify where cadences belong in the melody? Do I play it over and over so I hear where I think they belong? Is there a way to see where they belong by reading the melody?
    Thank you for any help,

    Sam
    Yes.

    Take on Happy Birthday:

    C-C-D-C-F-E / C-C-D-C / G-F / C-C-*C-A-F-E-D / *Bb-*Bb-A-F-G-F

    C7/ F-C7 / C7-F / F-(F7)-(C)-Bb / Gm7b5 (Bbm6)-F-C7-F

    Most of this tune consist of a Perfect Cadence - note I think he may be confusing terms: Perfect and Imperfect refers to how the chords are arranged or Voiced - he is not talking about voicings! I knew this the minute he mentioned the last cadence name. Plagal. The former to names should be - Authentic, Half or Plagal. There's another called Deceptive (V-vi as an example) These rules for more for part-writing which is VERY strict!!

    But to answer your question, most songs start and end on I; also, in major and minor keys, we often see an Authentic Cadence (V-I; V7-I) Half cadences, see the Authentic Cadence reversed - I-V or I-IV - Plagal, again is IV-I (don't exclude the minor versions (i-iv-v)

    Heres the Harmonic Analysis:

    V7 / I-V7 / V7-I / I (I7) (V/IV)-V-IV / ii (iv) / I-V-I

    I also realize this is from the UK and not the US as there are some differences, so if any users from there could add his or her input.

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