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    loan, you missed the change to G Major (see JJF's...

    loan, you missed the change to G Major (see JJF's post above yours).

    Also, the ending is a bit weird.

    It's *actually* in Dm - especially if we compare it to the "logic" of the rest of the...
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    To the OP, why do you need to know where the keys...

    To the OP, why do you need to know where the keys change?
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    A Taylor Swift melody is very likely composed...

    A Taylor Swift melody is very likely composed *after* the harmony has been created.

    Most popular music is like that, which is bass-ackwards from the way music has been written traditionally.
    ...
  4. Key sounds higher in yours than in the original.

    Key sounds higher in yours than in the original.
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    [QUOTE=James Shaormer;156075]. Yes. Melodies...

    Yes. Melodies can be analyzed in isolation. But you can also analyze the harmonic implications of a melody, its phrase structure, implied cadences, and so on.

    More often "analysis" tends to mean a...
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    Nope. It's i-iv-V-i in minor. What we hear...

    Nope. It's i-iv-V-i in minor.



    What we hear as the "center" depends on many factors, but one of the major ones is conditioning.

    If you listen to some modal music, which often uses the plagal...
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    Sounds OK too. Seems like you understand what...

    Sounds OK too. Seems like you understand what counterpoint is.
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    Not bad. But not "traditional". Nothing wrong...

    Not bad. But not "traditional". Nothing wrong with that. Voices are pretty far apart.

    What about 2 against 1?
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    Traditionally, a melody is conceived of first,...

    Traditionally, a melody is conceived of first, then harmony is written to that melody.

    Modern people do it backwards in a lot of cases - they write chord progressions first, then come up with a...
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    Most music is in a single key for one section of...

    Most music is in a single key for one section of the music. ALL of the instruments playing will play in the same key. That's how probably, I don't know, 99% of most music that the world is familiar...
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    Welcome to the forum. I Will say, if you don't...

    Welcome to the forum.

    I Will say, if you don't know what the role of C in the key of A Minor is, then "generative theory" might be a little advanced in relation to that. Yes you are right - rhythm...
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    Really, you're hitting the nail on the head here....

    Really, you're hitting the nail on the head here.

    I mean, we could go back and find the oldest cats we could and ask them "why do you not use the VI - iio progression often in minor?"

    Their...
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    Yep, that's counterpoint! Counterpoint is...

    Yep, that's counterpoint!

    Counterpoint is really the combining of 2 or more melodies where there is a "balance" where all voices are equally important and where they all blend into a "sonorous...
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    In simple speak: Functional chord progression...

    In simple speak:

    Functional chord progression in Minor Keys work hardly any differently than those in Major Keys.

    The functional hierarchy of "root movement by 4th" never specifies whether that...
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    Let's use this version so the timing will be...

    Let's use this version so the timing will be consistent:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z4KK7RWjmk

    What you hear at the beginning is the main motive.

    This motive consists of a pitch...
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    You seem to be stuck on instruments. If a...

    You seem to be stuck on instruments.

    If a singer is singing THAT is the melody.

    At 3:05, Paul McCartney is singing the "primary" melody "How can I tell..."

    Ar about 3:19, Linda McCartney is...
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    Well I'm not positive that's the reason, but it...

    Well I'm not positive that's the reason, but it is a nice tie-in with the style, whether they intended it or not.


    Hard to say (and that's probably what makes it so interesting). We can say that...
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    Well this is a good example. A "beat". People...

    Well this is a good example. A "beat".

    People who make "beats" are making accompaniments. They've mis-used the term, but it is what it is.

    They're using loop-based (or cycle-based) recording to...
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    [QUOTE=ssyniu;156038] Wow, no offense, but...

    Wow, no offense, but this tells me you don't play music. You're trying to learn music from reading about music. You really need to learn to play music. If you think melodies must consist of chord...
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    A melody. Melodies may be made of chord tones,...

    A melody.

    Melodies may be made of chord tones, but that does not specifically make them Arpeggios.

    However, you're walking a fine line with this example. Some might not call it a "melody"...
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    There are blues elements in it. I'd call it...

    There are blues elements in it. I'd call it "soul". But soul, like many forms, has blues influence.





    Software piano? You mean something you click on screen, or do you have a piano-style...
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    Not quite. It developed with the first harmonic...

    Not quite. It developed with the first harmonic music, which would be Polyphony in the Middle Ages. It evolved through the Renaissance and CPP, and continued to evolve into the present.




    It's...
  23. 1. The reason things "work" is because you are...

    1. The reason things "work" is because you are conditioned to hear them that way. You've heard this pattern or similar patterns, so you just accept it. That's really all there is to it.

    It sounds...
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    Yes, to our tonally-conditioned major...

    Yes, to our tonally-conditioned major centric-informed ears :-)



    Quite different if done "historically". But music is art, and certainly many people have intermingled the principles.

    One...
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    Well, that too is a bit of an oversimplification....

    Well, that too is a bit of an oversimplification.

    The Modes existed well before the Major/Minor system and what really happened was that what we call "ficta" practices evolved within the modal...
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