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tonycrf
11-23-2009, 01:51 AM
So, I've been playing guitar for a 3 or 4 years, not excellent, but getting better.

We just bought a piano for my daughter to start playing as well as my wife. I'm really interested in learning some piano. Any advice? Especially from anyone who has made the same transition or plays both instruments...

fingerpikingood
11-23-2009, 03:01 AM
as with guitar i would practice the major scale.

what's more tough with piano is that because of the black notes every key is a different pattern, and chords are different patterns also. same intervals, but because of the black notes it looks like different patterns.

it's probably easiest to start playing everything in C, or A minor. Just the white notes. but if you're going to be learning songs, then it's different. you'll want to learn the chords of the songs.

also it depends on whether you want to read music or not.

piano is easier fingering though, but also you need two hands to play, i'd start out playing simple single notes, or octaves, or chords with the left hand.

you'll notice though that if you go too low you can't play full chords without it sounding way too muddy. so you'll want to play only 2 notes or less when you go lower with the left hand. if you want to play chords with it, you'll need to stay closer to center.

i don't know if any of that will help really, but a few general things anyways.

Malcolm
11-23-2009, 08:12 AM
There are several ways to proceed. The standard approach is to take lessons from a classical trained instructor - and you will learn how to play classical music.

Another way is to play from lead sheet music, i.e. treble clef with chord names above the treble clef. Here you play chords with the left hand and melody with the right hand (normally).
http://www.wikifonia.org/node/3422
http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/

Then there is chord piano and here you play much like a rhythm guitar would do -- you play chords with both hands, i.e. left hand plays root - 5 and the right hand plays block chord and then the left hand will end the measure by playing another 5. This pattern is knows as the pinky, thumb, chord, thumb. There are hundreds of patterns - as there are hundreds of guitar riffs. You play chords and your vocal (or other band members) provide the melody.
http://www.playpianotips.com/video/chordprogression.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ5MKroWgQw He will get around to keyboard @ .23 - wait him out. His lessons have value, his material is a little unorganized, much like the room you see.....

Regardless of which way you chose to go, as fingerpickinggood mentioned, you have to start with your scales and get both hands working independently of each other, much like strumming and singing at the same time took practice, getting your hands operating independently of each other will take time. Start with Alfred's # 1 instruction book, any music store that deals in keyboard/piano or Amazon.com will have it in stock. http://www.alfred.com/Products/Alfreds-Music-Tech-Series-Book-1-Composing-Music-with-Notation--00-25565.aspx


So.... get a copy of Alfred's # 1 and start with your scales.
When you can run your scales in both hands and have finished Alfred's # 1 you will know which of the three ways I outlined above is the way you would like to proceed. I chose to go the Pop music route and work from lead sheet and fake chord. Our Daughter took me through scales and Alfred's # 1. Alfred will keep you busy for several months, AND get you started correctly.

On your scales - which fingers to use? It's different on keyboard, the thumb is # 1.
http://www.mypianoworld.com/MyPianoWorld-Beginners/beginnerspage2.htm

Here is an excellent chart. Notice the thumb tucks under or the middle finger crosses over.
http://www.ragatracks.com/keyboard4.htm

Standard notation. Yep, gotta know standard notation. Well, treble clef at least - you can fake the bass clef. There are hundreds of sites that will go into standard notation - here is just one.
http://www.playpianonow.com/how-to-read-music.html


Have fun.

tonycrf
11-23-2009, 11:10 PM
Thanks for all the info! I'll get Alfred's and watch the youtube lesson.

I'm psyched to get started, but already have my hands full trying to get good at Guitar. It's going to be tough to add another instrument!

Malcolm
11-23-2009, 11:36 PM
I think you will find that piano will help your guitar and your guitar will help your piano.

Good luck.

Ludwig
12-08-2009, 04:06 AM
Learn your inversions inside and out. Learn them on both hands. I never thought twice about inversions on a guitar because we never called them that. But on piano inversions are easier and make so much sence. Once you learn inversions and you can apply them effortlessly without thinking, improvising will come naturally.

psylocke24
10-02-2010, 07:59 AM
So, I've been playing guitar for a 3 or 4 years, not excellent, but getting better.

We just bought a piano for my daughter to start playing as well as my wife. I'm really interested in learning some piano. Any advice? Especially from anyone who has made the same transition or plays both instruments...

Same here I started playing guitar for 2 years and then decided to switch and want to learn piano (http://takelessons.com/category/piano-lessons) for my son. I know for kids it is harder to handle and pluck guitar strings so I decided to take piano lessons and when I'm done with the lessons I will be the one to teach him how.

julian_08
10-08-2010, 02:09 AM
Look for a music teacher were he / she teach the proper playing of paino..

smith
02-19-2011, 08:28 AM
Many people love to play music but they don't necessarily like to practice it. Practice can be tedious, frustrating, and grueling. Much like athletes must work out, musicians must practice. But that's not to say that practice can't be fun. If you enjoy playing music, you should enjoying practicing and if you don't, you're probably doing it wrong.To learn on your own (without a teacher), try an online piano course - it worked for me. Using a keyboard should be fine.

http://www.freepianolesson.com/

urucoug
02-21-2011, 03:47 PM
Nice resources, Malcolm, thanks for sharing