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eneyman
03-16-2009, 09:49 PM
Hey all, I am interested in learning to play keyboard, I have no musical experience. I have tried to go and study how to read sheet music but none of it makes sense to me, but reading tabs does. I understand numbers and they match up to the keys on the keyboard. I hear alot of people say this is wrong, but aren't they just translated sheet music? How is the best way for me to learn and is it really necessary to learn to read sheet? I just want to learn to play favorite songs of mine really. .

Malcolm
03-17-2009, 01:29 PM
There are several ways of doing this. Course the best way is to learn how to read standard notation - the following will get you started -- and you could be teaching yourself how to read standard notation in the mean time. Yes sooner or later if you are going to play the keyboard you will need to be able to read standard notation. Spare time teaching yourself will take a couple of months till you will be able to read and play simple songs. Here are some of the other ways to get started.

Use Lead sheet or fake chord sheet music and play chord piano. In chord piano you play just the chords of the song and your voice provides the melody. To make this happen you first have to know how to form chords on the piano as the fake chord or lead sheet will only tell you to play an A chord, Am chord, A7 chord, Amaj7 chord etc. Then it's up to you to know how to make those chords. Probably the quickest way to start something happening on your keyboard.
http://www.chordie.com/chord.pere/www.russell-lawson.com/music/chordpro/HankWilliams_ColdColdHeart.cpm
But, it's boring.

There is something called Big Easy Note sheet music. Looks like regular standard notation sheet music , however, within the symbol will be the note name, i.e. E, F, G, etc. So you play melody using the right hand and going to the E, F or G note on the keyboard. The sheet music then tells you what chord to use in your left hand - like described above. This is the method I would suggest you look into. Any music store that sells keyboards will have this type of sheet music - for you to take a look at, sorry, could not pull up anything off of the Internet.

There are tabs for piano, however, like any tab notation, you are really trapped with this method and I do not suggest you go this route.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=shawncheekeasy&view=videos

If any of this interests you come back with which and I'll point you to the first step.

eneyman
03-17-2009, 04:46 PM
Thanks Malcolm, I looked at some big easy examples online and still don't know what i'm looking at, I think I might just read idiots guide to keyboarding before anything even..

eneyman
03-17-2009, 05:51 PM
I found an online version of Idiots guide to keyboarding from my library's website, it is actually really helpful and I understand how to read the 7 basic keys and flats/sharps now.. b-flat #-sharp.. who woulda thought!? It is a bit hard to read the 7 keys though, figuring out if they are on the line or below and then counting c-d-e-f-g-a-b-c.. I will read on, but so far it is helpful

eneyman
03-17-2009, 11:09 PM
idiots guide is helping me understand timing as well now, whole half and quarter notes on right hand/treble. It hasn't gotten into left hand yet.. eighth notes are a bit confusing

Malcolm
03-18-2009, 01:02 PM
Sounds like you are on your way. Here is a quick and easy way to make your chords -- so you can play chord piano......

Fake chord tells you to make a C chord - here's how:

Any Major chord - letter with nothing after it is a Major chord. So C is a Major chord. A minor chord would be shown as Cm. A dominant C would be shown as C7. That's about all you need to get started.

To make any Major chord start with the chord name. For that C chord you will need to sound the C E & G notes all at the same time. OK start with the C note then go up scale four black and white notes for the E note - then go up scale three black and white notes for the G note. You just made a C chord. Notice it's every other white note on the keyboard. Great thing about that is you could freeze your hand in that position and make any of the 7 basic chords in the key of C. Try it starting on the F note. Even the Dm or Bdim chord will fit your frozen hand -- as long as you play in the key of C. So do like all beginning keyboard players - play in C.

R = the root or name of the chord you want.
R + 4 + 3 = any major chord aka C.
R + 3 + 4 = any minor chord aka Cm.
R + 4 + 3 + 3 = any dominant 7th chord aka C7.

Check it out:
http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/

Here are some chord accompaniment patterns you could use:
Now this one is ment to just get you using both hands at the same time. With both hands make a C chord - one with the left hand and another with the right hand - now sound them 4 times. Now.....
make a F chord with both hands and sound them 4 times. Then...
make a G7 chord with both hands and sound them 4 times.

When you get that - alternate the left hand then the right hand.

When you get that - sound your left hand C note then the G note then the right hand C chord then back to the left hand and sound the G note again. Notice that fits 4/4 time pretty well. Two of those per measure is just about right for any 4/4 fake chord song Do this same thing for the F and G7 chord. Think of this as your go to "strum pattern" when "strumming" an accompaniment pattern on your keyboard.

Now go find some fake chord sheet music and play your chords and sing the melody. Or, improvise away, this should give you some idea of how to improvise on the keyboard.
http://www.playpianotips.com/video/chordprogression.html

As the key of C has no sharps or flats all it's notes will be on the white keys of the keyboard. Make a C chord with the left hand and with the right hand use any white note for your melody. When the C chord sound dies sound another C chord or go to the F and G7 chords. Any white note will still work with the F and/or G7 chord.
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/51053_improv-piano-c-improv-one.htm

What sounds even better is leave the F and B notes out of the melody and you just played the notes of the C Major pentatonic scale with your right hand. I like using the pentatonic scale - 5 notes seem to keep you from sounding like you are doing a scale exercise. Do a C-Am-F-G7 loop back to C chord progression with your left and and use any white notes except the F and B for the melody you are playing with your right hand. Remember you've got several octaves to gather your notes from - use them. Congregations - you are making music on the keyboard.

Have fun.

eneyman
03-22-2009, 03:33 AM
Hey Malcolm, I am very confused with what you wrote, no offense hehe. I really do not understand what they mean by C-major or A-minor, is it just 7 keys played in a row after those keys, either forwards or backwards?? The book is not very clear on this section and mentions "steps" for these scales, what exactly do they mean by steps?? Are these scales just forms of practicing the guys, because isn't reading sheet music going to vary?

Malcolm
03-22-2009, 12:19 PM
I am very confused with what you wrote, no offense hehe. I really do not understand what they mean by C-major or A-minor, is it just 7 keys played in a row after those keys, either forwards or backwards?? The book is not very clear on this section and mentions "steps" for these scales, what exactly do they mean by steps?? Are these scales just forms of practicing the guys, because isn't reading sheet music going to vary?
When you said; "... I am interested in learning to play keyboard, I have no musical experience". I guess I did not take you literally -- OK from the top.

Not sure what book you are reading -- a good series for keyboard players is Alfred's piano books. Any music store that sells keyboards or pianos will have them. Get book # 1 and start from there.

I really do not understand what they mean by C-major or A-minor, is it just 7 keys played in a row after those keys, either forwards or backwards?? Pretty much. A chord is two or more notes played at the same time. Chords are made from the scale notes, thus .....
Scale interval 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
C scale = ......C D E F G A B
The 1 of the C scale is C. The 3 of the C scale is E, etc.
There is a chord formula.....
http://www.smithfowler.org/music/Chord_Formulas.htm
To make a C major chord you would sound the 1, 3 & 5 notes of the C scale all at the same time. To make a C minor chord you would sound the 1, b3, & 5 notes of the C scale. That b3 means you flat the 3rd interval .....
C Major will have the C, E & G notes.
C minor will have the C, Eb & G notes.
Go to your keyboard and see where your fingers go to make a C Major chord.
Now do the same with the Cm (C minor) chord. Your index finger moves from the E note to the Eb (E flat) note to make the Cm chord.


The book is not very clear on this section and mentions "steps" for these scales, what exactly do they mean by steps?? Are these scales just forms of practicing the guys, because isn't reading sheet music going to vary?
By steps I assume they mean the step formula or structure each scale has. A Major scale's structure is made using these steps WWHWWWH. W is a whole step (two notes on the keyboard) and H is a half step (one note). The scale step for a Minor scale is WHWWHWW yes, it's different and every scale has a specific structure.
Go to your keyboard. Let's build the C Major scale. C, D, E, F, G, A, B
Start on C go up scale a W or two notes C, C#, D.
Go up another W -- D, D#, E
Now go up a H or one note -- E, F. See how it works? Make the E scale -- start on the E note and apply WWHWWWH. Yep, there will be black keys. What do you get?

This will go into more detail http://www.ibreathemusic.com/article/105
Notice there is a button at the bottom right hand portion of the text. Click it and you will go to the next step - the rest of the story.

Are these scales just forms of practicing the guys, because isn't reading sheet music going to vary?
I think I understand what you asked. Doing our scales is just doing our scales it's not making music. Music is made from the notes of the scale. If you just run the scale in scale order you are just doing scale exercises. However, doing our scales is a passage thing -- we have to learn how to use our fingers, how to play with both hands and our ears need to recognize good and bad notes. We do that by spending countless hours doing our scales. Now as to -- reading sheet music going to vary? I guess you could say yes, as there are several ways notes are given to us. 1) tab form. 2) interval number. 3) standard notation format. 4) keyboard diagram, etc.

Go get Alfred's book # 1. Start at the beginning, if you skip over "stuff" you'll keep hitting stone walls.

http://www.music44.com/X/product/5756-D

Good luck.

Malcolm
03-25-2009, 02:03 AM
Finally found some E-Z note sheet music.
http://www.pianospot.com/1704640_alt_ge.html

Music stores that sell keyboards or pianos will have this.

lemarquis
05-17-2009, 09:20 PM
There are a lot of self teaching methods for learning to play piano. Here are my recommendations for teaching yourself piano (http://hubpages.com/hub/Best-Way-to-Learn-Piano).

Keith Alex
06-17-2009, 05:11 PM
My brother try to teach to teach me how to play keyboard when I was still in college, I learned the chopstick but i cannot remember it now. I need to find a way to learn how to play it again, because my daughter make a program for the family and i need to play the piano. Is somebody know the keyboard for chopstick.

Malcolm
06-17-2009, 06:19 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_2120586_play-chopsticks-piano.html

uday1583
08-15-2009, 06:01 AM
Nice information shared guys... thanks... even i am a beginner and was looking for some useful tips to learn the key board. This post was really helpful to me. Thanks

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