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    Steve Vai´s 30-hour workout

    Anyone seen the new issue of Guitar World? What's Steve Vai´s 30-hour workout about? What´s different from the 10-hour workout?


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    It's 3 times as long!

    It covers way more ground than the last one did. It's a 3 day rotation with 3 x 10 hour day curriculums laid out. Rather insane stuff. It's not just technique or chops, it includes actual musicianship stuff.
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    What's different? I'd say less sleep.

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    it only costs something around 4$ its worth pickin up!

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    Riffer is from Finland, so it might not be quite as easy for him to hunt down a copy of that mag, and it sure won´t be $4...

    Anyway, I saw the 30 hr workout, and it definitely is more elaborate than the 10 hr one... Steve´s covering more topics and techniques in this one, and added some more comments on how to approach the workout, and about general philosophy.

    Anyway, just like with the first one, I think Steve´s intention was not to write some "works for everyone" kinda workout that everyone should use religiously. I think he was just trying to show how to come up with your own workout, based on what you wanna work on and what level you´re on.
    That´s the same intention I had in mind when I wrote my workout-articles. I didn´t try to say "OK; this is the only correct way of doing it, everything else is wrong". Instead, I wanted people to create their own, customized workout...

    Anyway, it was very interesting to read the 30 hr. one, it´s very elaborate and has some interesting ideas.
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    I would love to try his workout, because I'm sure it gives good results, but I don't have 10 hours of free time a day, and if I did, I couldn't do each thing for an hour. I could jam for 2 hours easily, but eartraining for an hour? No way.

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    That's why everyone needs to make up his/her own workout. Mr Vai works in one way, if you've read Petrucci's Wild Stringdom or Seen rock discipline you'll see that his approach is more mechanical while Steve Morse for instance says he'd rather concetrate on more melodic stuff, none of the above are wrong approaches but they won't work for everybody, I do a bit of everything... I wish I had more time to practice but since I've got a regular job plus students plus a wife plus this plus that I have to be content with 2 - 4 hours on a weekday and on the weekend trying to catch up. That's how my schedulle looks like, so I need to work on things differently than those guys who have the luck to work in a music related field and are able to do music 24/7. See how your schedulle looks like, what your goals are and then start working on your schedulle.

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    Steve actually categorizes guitarists in 3 broad and general categories. It goes something like this:
    1. casual player
    2. gigging semi-pro
    3. dedicated "music is my life" person and will sacrifice everything to maximize his/her potential.

    To paraphrase he says the lesson is for the 3rd group, but if you're in that group you don't really need the lesson...

    I've been in all 3 groups at various stages in my life. In junior high through about 2 years of college I would have considered myself to be in group 3. After that I was in group 1 for quite some time. Now I'm in group 2....

    ForgottenKing, I wish I could get 2 hours per day of practice! Everything changes once you have kids
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    Riffer is from Finland, so it might not be quite as easy for him to hunt down a copy of that mag, and it sure won´t be $4...
    Actually there are a few stores that have GW for sale where I live, have to wait for the new issue though cos the march is the latest one over here, but yeah, it aint as cheap as $4 more like $7-8.

    Hope the workout is still worth the money.

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    Originally posted by Bizarro


    ForgottenKing, I wish I could get 2 hours per day of practice! Everything changes once you have kids
    Bizarro how do you manage your practice time with kids? I'm curious. I'm so far away from that right now I don't even know why I asked, but I'm just wondering how you (and they) handle it.

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    My job is basically from 6:30am to 7pm including travel time, and then family stuff until 10pm. I try to practice from 10-11pm but it's not always easy to do! For example, if someone in my family is sick then I might not get to play at all!

    Today I installed a new garage door opener and my hands took a beating. I might get to play a bit at 10pm tonight but who knows.
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    I too am a nocturnal jammer...lol....no not because i have to tough...I play at night because that is when i am at my most peaceful state......And also that is when the mum isnt hagging me and when i can just let go.....I play anywhere from 9:00 to 3:00 A.M. ....and I am still in school
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    But i find that i am really tired when i play up until 3:00 A.M. ..... I usually try to stop at 1:30 A.M. because I just cant take that beating sometimes

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    yea I keep forgetting that not everyone lives where these magazines are accessable, sorry! bUt I'm sure someone will post it on the net somewhere if it hasn't already been done. But Having the original is much better. I hope you get ahold of it, because its awesome

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    30 hour workout

    I just read the 30 hour workout, I think that it is really interesting and he has alot of obviously great ideas. But, I am like forgottenking and I have a wife and two kids and a job and can't practice for 10 hours a day.

    I think 2 key take aways are that no matter how long you can practice, first decide what you want to accomplish and find what part of your playing you need to work on to get what you want. Find an exercise that will help you get there and do it over and over untill it is flawless.

    The other idea I've heard time and time again, but maybe I'm listening now, is that you should listen to the individual notes of the chords and scales. Try to get there overall tone and mood to help when you are writing or improvising and tying to convey those feelings.

    I really did like the article, but I must also say that I got alot of great ideas out of Eric's workout series as well.
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