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Thread: my breakdown of the first part of the verse of this song

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    my breakdown of the first part of the verse of this song

    Hey there! I've been working on correctly identifying phrase lengths for a while now, and I was wondering if you guys could compare and contrast with my breakdown of the first part of the verse of this song as a quick test of how I'm doing: [www.youtube.com]

    I have it as 9 bars in total, as a fast 4/4 otherwise I seem to get caught up with half measures. After breaking it down, I decided it sounded to me like 3+2+4. I don't know how to align/notate things correctly on this board, so to simplify:
    "Please, don't wake me up too late" 1st phrase, 3 bars
    "Tomorrow comes" 2nd phrase, 2 bars
    "I will not be late" 3rd phrase, 4 bars

    Therefore giving the verse a structure of A B C, right? Or in other words, it's through composed? I don't see any repetition of phrases anywhere.

    Thanks for reading, and thanks for any answers =)

    P.S Could you recommend any books on the subject of phrases and the like?

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    You had a couple of answers (including one from me ) on this site:
    Did they help?

    AFAIK, "through composed" doesn't refer to such a short section of a song as a verse. Verses typically do have sets of regular 4-bar lines (or 2-bar lines), which may contain some repetition, but if they are more irregular (like this one) I don't think that means "through-composed" - not according to this definition anyway:

    After all, the verses of this song all have the same structure.

    As I said on the other site, IMO the only definition you need of a "phrase" is "something that could be sung in one breath" (or played in one breath on a horn).
    Perhaps the clever thing about this song is precisely the fact that the phrase boundaries are ambiguous: you could break it as you have done, into 3 phrases, or "tomorrow comes" could be an extension of the first phrase; or the first half of the next one. I don't really see that one single answer matters.

    (If you want an example of a through-composed pop song, I'd pick Roy Orbison, who did it quite a lot. As I understand the term, "In Dreams" fits the definition: it contains internal repeats, as couplets, but never returns to any earlier section.)
    Last edited by JonR; 06-02-2010 at 11:46 AM.

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